Luke Hathaway is a trans poet who teaches English and Creative Writing at Saint
Mary’s University in Kjipuktuk/Halifax. He has been before now at some time boy
and girl, bush, bird, and a mute fish in the sea. His book The
Affirmations is published by Biblioasis. Both book and audio book (full of
music; a co-creation with his friend the scholar/singer Daniel Cabena) are
available here: http://biblioasis.com/shop/new-release/the-affirmations/
1 - How did your first book change your life?
One calls and calls
and calls, & eventually ... somebody comes (or, somebodies come).
How does your most recent work compare to your previous? How does
it feel different?
It’s the work of a
different poet. death/rebirth: no idle metaphor.
2 - How did you come to poetry first, as opposed to, say, fiction
or non-fiction?
Poetry is my first
love: breath, the heartbeat …
3 - How long does it take to start any particular writing project?
Does your writing initially come quickly, or is it a slow process? Do first
drafts appear looking close to their final shape, or does your work come out of
copious notes?
I don’t know any
more. Everything I’ve written in the past few years has taken me by surprise.
4 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of
short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on
a "book" from the very beginning?
There have been books
that are projects, but The Affirmations was a miscellany — until it
wasn’t.
Some of its poems —
many of them, actually — began in music, in the desire to find new words for an
old tune (the older words for which often become a point of departure — and
sometimes a point of return — for the new ones).
Many, many of them
(the poems) began in conversation — with a desire to say something that
couldn’t be said in any other way.
5 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative
process? Are you the sort of writer who enjoys doing readings?
I love to read or
speak poetry aloud, my own, or other people’s: any work I love, that is written
for the ear. Increasingly I sing, too — see melody as another element of poetry,
which one may prescribe or score in various ways, if one sees fit. (Though I am
also deeply beguiled by the unstudied, incremental variations in
pitch/rhythm/emphasis that inhere in the speaking voice, and that are also part
of any reader’s/speaker’s interpretation, as they speak the words in a
particular moment, with particular momentums, all reflecting/embodying the
contingencies of a particular time and place, a particular audience ….)
6 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What
kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even
think the current questions are?
No theoretical
concerns. The only real question I’m trying to answer, in any given moment, is,
how is this poem supposed to sound? As for “the current questions”: yikes. I
think there’s no one answer.
7 – What do you see the current role of the writer being in larger
culture? Do they even have one? What do you think the role of the writer should
be?
I do think writers
have a role in trying to keep the bullshit out of language; or, in trying to
purge the language of the bullshit, once the bullshit has gotten in.
Beyond that ...
writers are listeners, or should be; instruments through which the motion of
meaning in the universe can register itself in the particular medium which is
language. It has to all keep moving, though; if meaning stays written down, it
gets dead. We have to read it, re-speak it, if it’s going to keep on living in
the world.
8 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor
difficult or essential (or both)?
Every editorial
experience I’ve had has been vastly different. I can’t generalize.
I am an editor
myself, and have great respect for what editors can do, the amount of time and
care they can lavish on the personal expression of another: it’s really
humbling.
But writers need to
know how to stand their ground.
9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily
given to you directly)?
Resign yourself to
the road; there’s no arriving. (That’s Steven Heighton, from a letter to me
when I was about sixteen and he was an avuncular 32.)
10 - How easy has it been for you to move between genres (poetry
to libretto)? What do you see as the appeal?
Oh I love crossing
boundaries! You know, with consent. It’s marvellous. Stepping across a
threshold. Everything looks different on the other side. (And over here, in the
libretto-world — there’s company!)
11 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you
even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?
Wake, shower, coffee,
prayer, then I pack lunches for my kids (I am, at this point, a single parent),
then I begin the loooooooong and sometimes painful process of getting my kids out
of bed, then I make them breakfast, then I say ‘put on your shoes / do you have
your backpack / where’s your water bottle’ about fifty times, then we walk to
their school (the walk is great: we talk to one another), then I walk to work.
(I teach English, at Saint Mary’s University.) On days when I am writing, I do
none of this. I moon and june and sleep late and go for long long long walks to
and by the ocean, and write letters and listen to fifteenth century Burgundian
songs again and again and again and again, and look things up in
dictionaries.... For the obvious financial and practical reasons, such days do
not happen very often. But when they do, it’s bliss.
12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return
for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?
I wait it out. Accept
the possibility I may never write again. Long experience has taught me it
cannot be forced.
13 - What fragrance reminds you of home?
The smell of a person
I love. The smell of a highway in the rain.
14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but
are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music,
science or visual art?
Oh yeah. All of the
above.
15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work,
or simply your life outside of your work?
All of my friends and
correspondents, with whom I’m perpetually in conversation, and including these
days my close colleagues at Saint Mary’s (Alexander MacLeod, Raymond Sewell,
Gugu Hlongwane …) — I’m so lucky to work with them.
And, then, the
various stars in my literary constellation, to which I keep returning; by which
I’ve set my bearings in the past .... I think of individual poems here more
than poets, but a quick glance at the sky reveals George Herbert, Richard Outram, Peter Sanger, Steven Heighton, Emily Dickinson, W.H. Auden, John Donne,
William Shakespeare, also the anonymous psalmists ... These are my old
familiars. But/and they are not more important to me than the oral traditions
to which I’m heir, via the beauties of teaching and of conversation. These interpenetrate
with the written traditions in ways to which I’m increasingly alive.
16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?
Take the ferry to
Tancook Island.
17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would
it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you
not been a writer?
I’d love to be a
dancer. The word made flesh.
18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?
Necessity.
19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last
great film?
The Bible. Ms Marvel (does a TV show count???).
20 - What are you currently working on?
A folk opera (with
Benton Roark), an audio-visual album (with the art collective thirtyminutes),
a queer cantata and other things with Daniel Cabena (we call our quixotic
ensemble ANIMA), the opera Eurydice Fragments (with re:naissance opera)
… &/plus always trying to be a better parent / child / friend / lover /
colleague / teacher / citizen / community member ... & c. & c. & c.
Oh yes, and I am
trying to learn how to sing (better), for a role in A Poor Passion — a
retelling of Bach’s Johannes-Passion as a kind of transition story. This
is terrifying, & exciting.
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