Mia Kang is the author of All Empires Must (Airlie
Press, 2025), which won the 2023 Airlie Prize, and the chapbooks Apparent Signs (Ghost City Press, 2024) and City Poems (ignitionpress, 2020).
Her writing has appeared in Gulf Coast, Poetry Northwest, Pleiades,
wildness, and elsewhere. Named the 2017 winner of Boston Review’s
Annual Poetry Contest, she has also received awards and residencies from
Brooklyn Poets, the Academy of American Poets, the Fine Arts Work Center in
Provincetown, Millay Arts, and University of the Arts. Whatever prizes she has
won, she paid for three-fold in submission fees. www.miaadrikang.com1 - How did your first book or chapbook change your life? How does your
most recent work compare to your previous? How does it feel different?
My recent book All Empires Must is my first full-length, and I'm
not sure if its publication has changed my life. My main feelings toward its
release have to do with the strangeness of being nearly a decade removed from
the process of writing it. The years I spent working on those poems (2015-2017),
however, certainly changed my life. It was my first experience working on a
project at that scale, and it was also my deepest experience with writing to
date, in the sense that I discovered how an immersive conceptual engagement
could process personal experience into something else. I think the book is more
serious, maybe braver, than what I've written since, but it's also less honest,
or self-accountable. I guess that's the description of being young.
The best way of describing the difference between my recent work and my
previous is probably to say I have become less precious about poetry. Part of
that is that I've become less ambitious, in the sense of some external idea of
"achievement" as a writer. I want to be serious, but I do not want to
be prestigious, which I desperately did want when I was younger. That allows me
to be looser, to try more varied approaches, and to let things take the time
they take.
2 - How did you come to poetry first, as opposed to, say, fiction or
non-fiction?
As a kid, I actually tried to write fiction first. But I could never get
a story to go anywhere. I would get mired in description. Plot held no interest
for me. When I first started getting serious about poetry, after I moved to NYC
in my late teens, I also tried to write non-fiction intermittently. I could
only really do it in email form. There's a trove of long emails I wrote to
family members from the years I was 17 and 18, plus a bunch I wrote to a mainly
email-based lover the years I was 18 through 20 or so. But I've never succeeded
in connecting with the essay as a form for my own thinking. I have the vague
memory––possibly fabricated––of my first poems being written on scraps of
paper. Poetry writing, in that sense, was easier to hide. Haha.
3 - How long does it take to start any particular writing project? Does
your writing initially come quickly, or is it a slow process? Do first drafts
appear looking close to their final shape, or does your work come out of
copious notes?
Total variety. I tend to start from some kind of fixation. I've probably
grown more attuned over the years to what kind of fixation might be likely to
hold up as the basis for writing and what might not, but I still get surprised.
I think I used to be closer to writing on a day-to-day basis; I used to find
that first lines or sticking phrases would pop up and I would go from there.
Since having my relationship to reading and writing completely reconfigured by
various engagements with institutions (that's the avoidant way of saying
graduate school), I've had to work much harder to make space for language to
show itself. I'm not very disciplined about it, frankly, and sometimes I feel
bad about that.
The poems in All Empires Must often came in a single sitting, but
each poem (and the book as a whole) was at one point or another completely
taken apart, edited, and reformulated. Some of the early drafts would
eventually kind of splice into each other and become different poems. My second
manuscript (unpublished, titled PERISH / ABOLISH) arrived more
intact––individual poems still required refinement, but not in the same
"down to the studs" kind of way. More of the thinking was done
exterior to the poetry, in the second book. Also I was really, really, really
angry all the time. Poems would get spit out in an already hardened state.
4 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are you an author of short
pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a
"book" from the very beginning?
I guess I jumped the gun and answered the first part of this above. I'm
always thinking in terms of projects, whether the project is a "book"
or something else. I can't stomach the notion of a poem that stands alone.
5 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process? Are
you the sort of writer who enjoys doing readings?
Still trying to figure this out! I do enjoy readings, kind of. I like the
physical act of reading aloud, and I'm interested in the thing that can happen
when that happens with an audience. However, I am also someone who finds it
hard to track a poem when I'm listening to it being read aloud. I greatly
prefer reading from the page. I know not everyone is like that, but it always
makes me feel weird about reading publicly myself.
6 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds
of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think
the current questions are?
Yes. What is writing? Why am I doing this? Who am I doing it for? What
does writing do?
7 – What do you see the current role of the writer being in larger
culture? Do they even have one? What do you think the role of the writer should
be?
See questions in answer above.
8 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult
or essential (or both)?
I can't say that I've had too much experience working with an outside
editor on poetry. With my first chapbook, City Poems, I got some great
edits from the folks at ignitionpress. There was one long poem in particular
that they helped me refine over several versions. At the time, I hated the
process, but it absolutely made the book better, and I think I would be much
more appreciative of that kind of editing now. I wish I had had the chance to
work with an editor on All Empires Must. It won a book contest, so it
was published basically exactly as I submitted it.
9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given
to you directly)?
I don't know if I think it's the best piece of advice, but it's the first
thing that comes to mind: don't give up on a piece until you've gotten 100
rejections. Sadly, much about publishing is a numbers game, given the total
lack of infrastructure for poetry.
10 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even
have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?
Alas, I have no routine. My day begins with feeding cats and making
coffee. From there it unravels.
11 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for
lack of a better word) inspiration?
To writers and books I love. I'll reread the poetry books that have been
most important to my writing life. I'll especially turn to the work of dear
friends. But also, and maybe more importantly, I need to go outside of writing.
Learning something new helps, as does engaging with the material world
(cooking, gardening, cleaning). Visual and performance art have often been the
things that get what's stuck to move.
12 - What fragrance reminds you of home?
Copal.
13 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are
there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science
or visual art?
My study of art history has run alongside my writing since the beginning,
I guess. Architecture moves me more than probably any other visual form.
Watching and thinking about and sometimes making dance and performance have
been central to my writing as well.
14 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or
simply your life outside of your work?
Wayyyyy too many to name, so I'll just say Cam Scott because everybody
knows it already.
15 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?
You're catching me in August, and I've been to a lot of baseball games
recently. I really, really want to be able to walk on the field at the
Phillies' ballpark, with few or no other people on it. Maybe this is the memory
of the proscenium; I just feel I need to experience this.
16 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be?
Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not
been a writer?
I'm a nonprofit administrator, occupation-wise. I'm also qualified as an
art historian, though I'm not teaching much these days due to the terrible
conditions of that occupation. I'm working toward sitting for a CPA license. I
wish I could be an NBA player (I have never played basketball at all). I
estimate I will attempt 5-7 more occupations before I die.
17 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?
I do many things else. Mainly else. I started my life as a dancer, and I
got injured. Writing is less expensive than say, painting, which I have no
talent for anyway. Language is a source of pleasure and the stupidest kind of
cage (the one you make yourself!). Everything is writing.
18 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?
The last great book was Emily Skillings' second book, Tantrums in Air,
which came out recently from The Song Cave. I first read it in manuscript form
over a year ago, and it is beyond fantastic and everyone should read it. I
barely watch movies. The last great film I watched was probably Scarface,
because I watch it once or twice a year, and I don't think Center Stage (with
which I maintain a similar schedule) counts as a great film.
19 - What are you currently working on?
I am working on a book
tentatively titled Rookie of the Year. The book centers around a long,
overdetermined metaphor between my failed engagement and the so-called Process,
the strategy by which the Philadelphia 76ers have been trying to build a team
and win a championship since 2013. I'm still early on in the project, but I
think the book is really about the beauty of devotion and the incongruity of
the devastation by which it is accompanied. Several basketball-related poems
from the project have appeared on The Rights to Ricky Sanchez podcast over the
past year or so. None of these are published in a normal way yet, but you can
hear Spike Eskin read "Breach of Promise," or you can see me give a live performance on the occasion of the NBA
Draft Lottery. I have a lot of problems. Daryl Morey, please give me a press
pass so I can write this book.
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