Lynn
Hutchinson Lee is an
award-winning author of Anglo-Romany descent on her father’s side. Her short
fiction was published in Room, Wagtail: The Roma Women’s Poetry
Anthology, and elsewhere. An excerpt from Nightshade won first prize
in the 2022 Joy Kogawa Award for Fiction and was shortlisted for the 2022
Swedish Writers’ Festival Prize. In 2023, Nightshade was shortlisted for
the Guernica Prize. Her flash fiction won the Editors’ Choice Award in
Guernica’s This Will Only Take a Minute. Her novella Origins of Desire in Orchid Fens is published with Stelliform Press. Lynn writes in Toronto,
cooks for friends, feeds birds, and gets lost in her garden. Visit her online
at lynnhutchinsonlee.ca.
1 - How did
your first book change your life? How does your most recent work compare to
your previous? How does it feel different?
My first book – Origins
of Desire in Orchid Fens (Stelliform Press) – was a compressed, fragmented re-visioning
of aspects of my life lived away from cities, and embedded in marshes and fens.
It was also an expansion of a previous flash fiction about wild orchids I found
in those places. Orchid changed my life in that I’d never conceived of
my small world appearing on the printed page and being sent out into the ether.
I was gratified to find that it touched people, and also slightly unnerved that
my world was no longer private or hidden. My current novel Nightshade
(Assembly Press) is different in that it’s less a series of small fragmented
chapters and more a continuous time-based narrative about a small family of Romany
women working in southern Ontario tobacco fields. There are similarities,
though, in that both have elements of nature, horror, and a kind of magic. Interestingly,
I wrote Nightshade before Orchid, but it was the second to be
published.
2 - How did
you come to fiction first, as opposed to, say, poetry or non-fiction?
I actually
started out writing poetry in an informal way, but it was too small a container
for my ideas. However, it did start me off in realising I needed to explore
larger themes and ways of expressing them. I love honing a piece of writing
down to its beating heart, but wanted more room – more space – for a larger narrative.
3 - How long
does it take to start any particular writing project? Does your writing
initially come quickly, or is it a slow process? Do first drafts appear looking
close to their final shape, or does your work come out of copious notes?
Before I even
start a writing project, an idea needs to simmer for a period of time – a
month, 6 months, a year or more – during which time I may write down ideas now
and then, but the project is always working away quietly in the background.
Once it’s a bit more gelled, I make notes – and copious is the right word! – on
loose sheets of paper and various notebooks around my house. So it’s rather a
slow process. First drafts are quite rough. I usually write between 12 and 17
drafts – I wrote 17 drafts before submitting Nightshade to Assembly.
4 - Where does
a work of prose usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that
end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a
"book" from the very beginning?
A book always begins
small for me. I think of a seed unfurling. My two books are based on stories. Orchid
started out as a flash fiction piece about gathering wild orchids in a marsh,
and then became a story that went nowhere, and several years later I harvested
elements of it for the novella. The origin of Nightshade was a short
story of the same name, published in Room Magazine. I’d initially had no
intention of turning it into a larger project, but it kept telling me there was
much more I could say about this family of women and the beauty and horror of
their experiences working and surviving in the tobacco belt. My friend and
colleague, author Nina Munteanu, after hearing about my dad’s family and their
lives, urged me on.
5 - Are public
readings part of or counter to your creative process? Are you the sort of
writer who enjoys doing readings?
I love doing
readings. And they’re definitely a part of my process, because they often
elicit responses from an audience that cause me to reflect on my work. From
these responses, I can get insight into the work itself, its themes, its
architecture, its narrative. When I’m reading, I’m seeing the story in a
completely new light.
6 - Do you
have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are
you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current
questions are?
I definitely have
theoretical concerns in my writing. The questions I raise – and endeavour to
answer – are foremost about identity. (My identity as the daughter of an
English Romany father is fraught with common myths and pernicious stereotypes
which, along with my own personal reactions, are expressed through the
characters in my work.) Another concern is environmental.
Because I grew up
around forests and streams, I identified intimately with them, and still do.
Ecological devastation is the pressing issue of our time, as are war,
extractive mining and other disastrous corporate ventures, exploitation of
vulnerable beings both human and non-human. Depending on the theme of a work
I’m developing I’ll address these issues, not in a didactic way, but through writing
that’s often surreal, magical and otherworldly. Current questions, according to
the writing I see around me, seem to be focused on human and environmental
rights expressed through eco-fiction and even horror (which sharply reflects
the state of our world right now.)
7 – What do
you see the current role of the writer being in larger culture? Do they even
have one? What do you think the role of the writer should be?
Now that I’m embedded
in the writing world, I appreciate even more deeply the work that writers are
doing. I was recently on a panel at a literary festival, and the audience
engagement revealed how passionate people are about books. Writers bring people
together. I think that’s what writers can and should do: unite and inspire
readers, reflect our world back to us, carry us into new worlds and new ways of
thinking.
8 - Do you
find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or
both)?
I love working
with outside editors. I can’t praise them enough. I ask for a tough critique in
order to make my work the best it can be. I’ve had the great pleasure of
working with mentor Ursula Pflug who walked me through short stories and the
early drafts of Nightshade, and my two outstanding editors Selena Middleton at
Stelliform and Leigh Nash at Assembly.
9 - What is
the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?
Arundhati Roy said, “If i had any advice to give to
people who want to write…please try and switch off…you don’t need all this
information….you don’t need to know everything about everything, it’s
unnatural…you need to know the earth, your neighbours, the birds…” I’ve taken
this to heart. It feels as if she were speaking to me directly.
Leap
and the net will appear is
attributed to naturalist John Burroughs. I encountered it quite by chance, and it
was a voice at my ear when I decided to change direction from visual art to
writing and then later on whenever I submitted stories or more recently my two
books. The thought behind it, I think, is to push through the fear, take the
leap. You won’t find yourself in freefall, but will be held in a safe place,
whatever the consequences. Interestingly, I’ve had almost no direct advice in
my life. One thing I do remember was a friend, a much older poet, telling me a
few years ago, “Get to know other writers.”
10 - What kind
of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a
typical day (for you) begin?
My day begins
with green tea, crosswords, gazing out the window. Sometimes a walk, which is
helpful, because it gets me thinking about what I’m going to write, and I’ll
frequently dictate notes into my cellphone. Other than that, there’s no
specific routine. I could say the writing, or the level of inspiration, are
what determine the day’s routine. When I’m deeply immersed, I’ll write all day
for days, and even at night in the dark. (I keep a notebook nearby so when an
idea comes to me or wakes me up, I write it down, hoping I’ll be able to read
it in the morning.) But generally I’m really all over the place.
11 - When
your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a
better word) inspiration?
I make soup.
Cooking is integral to my process, and I write in my kitchen, so cooking
usually gets me started. These two things reverberate off each other…..when I’m
stuck it’s back and forth from the computer to the stove. Also I read. Frequently
it’s fairy tales. I grew up with Baba Yaga and Russian fairy stories, and they
always take me back to that deep dark magical place where anything is possible.
At the moment I’ve been returning to Han Kang’s We Do Not Part and
Thomas Ha’s Uncertain Sons. I also watch trashy movies, horror movies,
and murder mysteries. They lead me into the same territory––and have the same
effect––as fairy stories. I’ve no idea why.
12 - What
fragrance reminds you of home?
The smell of
books, oil paint and turpentine.
13 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from
books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature,
music, science or visual art?
All of the above!
Nature – forests, marshes, fens, streams. They live in my writing. Music –
Estonian composer Arvo Pärt, Erik Satie, Sibelius, Nino Rota’s score for Juliet
of the Spirits, Romani singer Saban Bajramovic, the Romani anthem Djelem Djelem sung by Esma Redzepova, Goldberg Variations or anything played by Glenn Gould.
(I’m listening to Arvo Pärt while writing my WIP.) Science – constellations, galaxies,
black holes (featured in Nightshade), fractals seen in leaves, river deltas,
the whorl patterns of petals. Visual art – Hieronymus Bosch, Käthe Kollwitz,
Diego Rivera, Remedios Varo, Leonora Carrington, David Siqueiro.
14 - What
other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life
outside of your work?
In no particular
order, Kazuo Ishiguro, A. S. Byatt, Alistair MacLeod, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Thomas Ha, Rebecca Campbell, Omar El Akkad, Ursula Pflug, Gwendolyn MacEwen, Milton Acorn, Sylvia Plath, Emily Bronte, Albert Camus, Cormac McCarthy, Nina Munteanu, Emmi Itäranta, Sulaiman Addonia.
15 - What
would you like to do that you haven't yet done?
I’d love to
complete the novel which right now exists in my head and in notes scattered
around my house.
16 - If
you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or,
alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a
writer?
I would have
continued making art. I came to serious writing late in life, so at this point,
as the end draws closer each year, I can’t imagine doing anything else.
17 - What
made you write, as opposed to doing something else?
I switched to
writing because I had stories inside me that needed to get out, and partly as a
refuge from the exhausting rigors of studio work - painting and making pieces
for art installations. The switch had to do with ageing and declining physical
ability. When I was a visual artist, my paintings and installations were
thematically and stylistically a precursor to my current writing, so it was a
relatively smooth transition.
18 - What
was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?
Han Kang’s We
Do Not Part. It haunts me still. Last great film was The Zone of
Interest. I saw it three times. That, too, haunts me.
19 - What are you currently working on?
I’m working on an
eco-horror novella about a Romany crone who collaborates with human and
non-human women to dismantle political systems engaged in water privatisation. I’m
also beginning a novel about a Romany woman who clandestinely enters the
libraries of the wealthy people whose houses she cleans, and spends her nights
lost in books.
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