Jeremy
Springsteed is a barista and occasional
activist living in Seattle. He was one of the founders of the Breadline
Performance Series and a member of the ReDrum poetry collective. His work has
been published in many places online and in print such as SPREAD, Pidgeonholes,
Underwood, Pageboy, Internet Void, Another New
Calligraphy, and Limanal Spaces. He is the author of four
collections of poetry: A Guide To Getting Lost. (Cyberwit 2022) Salt,
Weasel, Corpse, and Other. (Cyberwit 2023) Beneath The Ashes of My Grandfather and My Youth. (Cyberwit 2025) By Wing and Foot. (Carbonation
Press 2025)
1 - How did your first book change your life? How
does your most recent work compare to your previous? How does it feel
different?
My first book felt like a validation of all the
years I had spent working on my craft. All the readings I had organized or
taken part in. All the rejections. It alleviated the imposter syndrome.
The first collection was more like a greatest
hits than a thematic grouping of poems. As I produced new work I thought of it
in a more contingent light. When writing work for this latest collection I
would look at those oddball one off poems and find the correct home in the
larger body.
While I have always had my themes and return
points, my process recently has been looking towards enriching connections in
tone and subject.
2 - How did you come to poetry first, as opposed
to, say, fiction or non-fiction?
I had always wanted to be a writer, not
necessarily a poet though. I have a very vivid memory from when I was 13, my
depression had really set in the year before and I was doing pretty poorly in
school. I was talking with my mom in her bedroom and she was trying to figure
out what was going on with me. I was crying, “I just want to write and I don’t
even know what that means.”
We were a paycheck to paycheck working class
family. I had, as far as I knew, never met any kind of an artist and I had no
idea how one became such a thing.
I would work on my silly little stories instead
of paying attention to my classes. Stories like– Hitler secretly surviving and
taking over a small US midwest town or stories of me being a secret agent with
a large base under my parents' rented house.
I would keep falling deeper into depression. I
started playing sports to try to fit in with the other boys. Eventually I
destroyed my knees and my mental health.
I was having mild auditory hallucinations. I
began writing them down, then I began altering them. Eventually I didn’t hear
them but they were still in my head.
I took creative writing and was lucky to have a
fantastic teacher named Joel Long who introduced me to a larger world of
poetry. Joel brought big name poets into the classroom, (the poet laureate at
the time Jorie Graham, Louise Glück, etc.)
which was no small feat for our suburban Utah high school. I was
introduced to many local poets. He gave me a structure to use. I have never
looked back.
3 - How long does it take to start any particular
writing project? Does your writing initially come quickly, or is it a slow
process? Do first drafts appear looking close to their final shape, or does
your work come out of copious notes?
I have two approaches to writing a poem. I have
the quick flood, these are usually the more personal narrative poems or the
politically charged ones. I also have the extensively researched ones that come
with pages of notes and a million open tabs on my computer. The deep research
ones are usually history based poems, this is also where science themes creep
in.
In both cases there is a first draft revision
process constantly happening. 75% of the time I spend on a poem is generally in
that first draft process. More often than not the first draft is fairly close
to the final, otherwise I am likely to scrap the whole thing and either try
another approach or abandon it until it is ready to cooperate.
My revision process is a lot of cutting
unnecessary words and then replacing what turns out to be structurally
important. I also spend a large amount of time with line breaks and stanza size
and shape.
4 - Where does a poem usually begin for you? Are
you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or
are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?
The stand alone poems generally come when a
phrase or image starts running through my head. I sit down and type out the
thing occupying my mind. Then I pace and occasionally return to the keyboard to
add elements. It is moments like these
that I miss smoking cigarettes.
I love writing serialized poems. I become
obsessed with something and try to write poems from various vantage points. In
my book Salt, Weasel, Corpse, and Other there is a series of eight poems
about the Wieliczka salt mine in Poland. In it there is history, folk lore,
science, a tour of some of the stand out features of the mine. I spent months
researching and drawing connections to try to inhabit the mine as well as I
could through words.
My most recent book was the first time I started
with a plan and wrote a large portion of the poems after defining a book
structure. To fill it out I found places for several orphaned poems.
For me both possible answers are true but I
suppose what I have been doing lately is putting a basic structure of a book
together and writing some poems explicitly for that structure and writing
others that may or may not find a home there.
5 - Are public readings part of or counter to
your creative process? Are you the sort of writer who enjoys doing readings?
Readings have been an important part of my
formation as a poet. Hearing when a line cuts through people, or when it just
lies face down on the floor. Receiving immediate feedback and interpretations
of a new poem is powerful and valuable.
I have been the open mic MC for a few reading
series. I would always start the open mic with a new poem which kept me
writing. It also put me in close contact with all manner of writers from a
diverse skill set. Writing is solitary work so any opportunity to be in
community with other writers is to be relished.
I am also a founding member of the ReDrum poetry
collective with my dear friend Alex Bleecker. Our troop has been involved in
both publishing work and performative work. The performances are always
occasional and based on a singular theme (whales, Carlo Zinelli, time travel,
etc.) that the 2-4 poets work towards
separately and as a group. Those performances have allowed new ways of looking
at what a poem might be.
My first book wouldn’t have been possible without
public readings. It helped me to group poems so the flow of the work was more
natural. They let me know what was working and what I should focus my energy
on.
Then there is the theft. There is no better
teacher than hearing someone read a poem that you wish you had written and
trying to figure out how you might be able to still write that poem but make it
yours.
6 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind
your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work?
What do you even think the current questions are?
When I was a junior in high school I told my
English teacher that I was getting into poetry and I hoped to be a poet some
day. She said to me, “Jeremy, everything that could have been written about the
human condition has already been written. What would you even hope to
accomplish?” It became my goal to prove her wrong. But how?
Is experience static? Does an era change the
experience or at least the voice of the experience? Is today less important
than the days of Anne Sexton? Don’t we have anything to contribute?
I remember going to workshops where discussing a
painting from the 1800s is an appropriate reference point but bringing up David
Bowie in a poem wasn’t. Do we want to be relevant or not? Is this art form only
available to the well educated or are we creating art for humanity?
Does the poet have a responsibility to humanity
or is it only a responsibility to form?
Is killing the form from lack of interest worth
the feeling of superiority towards the unread masses?
7 – What do you see the current role of the
writer being in larger culture? Do they even have one? What do you think the
role of the writer should be?
My entire life I have watched the general number
of people reading decline. It has been a question on my mind ever since I found
myself dedicated to writing. With the advent of the smart phone reading has
taken an even greater hit. There has been an all out assault on attention.
(Although I am noticing Gen Z falling in love with reading and physical media
in general.)
What has always remained though is that artists
of other disciplines seem to be drawn to and directed by the thoughts of poets.
I think back to earlier eras, Dylan being awestruck by Ginsberg. Rimbaud
inspiring Jim Morrison. Kurt Cobain being in love with Burroughs. Patti Smith
being both musician and poet and inspiring both is a beautiful crossing.
The poet is the cutting edge. They must live in
the past and present because they are the artist that pushes to the future.
They are forgotten and in many cases prefer to be an apparition.
They must point forward even if few see their
outstretched hand.
8 - Do you find the process of working with an
outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?
This latest book was the first time I have worked
with an outside editor in a meaningful way and I loved the process. The
different perspective was very valuable, there were moments where I thought I
had something the way I wanted and a few good editorial questions allowed me to
see with fresh eyes and make wise changes. On the opposite side there were
moments where choices I made were called into question and I had to find a way
to justify them and was able to bring the editor to my side. My first couple of
books were from a very hands off publisher. I was glad to have those books
published and start to get a feeling for what writing towards a book is like
but it was a more fulfilling experience publishing with the more hands on
approach that I had with Carbonation Press.
9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard
(not necessarily given to you directly)?
“Put your butt in the chair and close the door.”
So simple and direct. When it comes to writing
nothing has proven to be more true. To do a ting one simply has to do it.
10 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to
keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?
I tend to go through a fevered creation period,
followed by a cool off revision process, a rush of submissions and readings.
Then I burn out for a bit. I’ll get to the point where I think, “well, you used
it all up.”
A line will start to grow in my head. Always the
entire time I was “blocked” I was actually absorbing, it just feels different
than creating.
Within that routine days look very different.
When I am on red hot creation I am in my writing room, at my desk, spinning as
many instrumental albums on my turntable as I can. I’ll forget to eat.
Revision period is like looking at a house after
a party. Something fun has happened here but I can’t enjoy the memory until the
mess is cleaned and everything is put in its right place.
Submission time is coffee time. It is the closest
to professional time I ever spend. And then I wander into the desert until
manna.
11 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you
turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?
Every stall has a different reactivation code.
Sometimes it is opening every poem I have that is unpublished and making sure I
am happy with it and if not revising. Sometimes it is looking for magazines to
submit to. Reading poems, always reading poems by my favorite poets or by
freshly encountered poets to rejuvenate. Putting on a beloved record and free
associate on the keyboard. Ask myself what I want to become obsessed with and
go down a research rabbit hole.
12 - What fragrance reminds you of home?
Home is a difficult concept. By the time I moved
out of my parents house we had moved states 4 times and within those states had
multiple moves. Then I was briefly homeless in San Francisco before I finally
found what has become my home in the PNW.
When I think of my childhood in San Diego the
smell is chlorine and all the summer days I spent at my best friend Dominic’s
house where he was an only child of divorce and being largely looked after by
his grandfather, a WWII vet named Herb who would swim laps in their backyard
pool.
When it comes to my teenage years in Salt Lake I
think of the choking aroma of rotting brine shrimp that would blanket the
valley as it was blown off the shrinking shores of The Great Salt Lake.
When I think of Seattle it is the earthy smell of
wet decaying cedar on a misty path through the arboretum.
13 - David W. McFadden once said that books come
from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether
nature, music, science or visual art?
Music is huge for me. The number of lines that I
have based off of a lyric or melody by The Cure probably opens me up for a
copyright lawsuit. When I’m writing I always have music on. I used to be a
regular reader at a now defunct reading series called Liner Notes where every
poet was assigned one song from an album and had a month to write and perform a
response poem to their assigned song. Playing with the connection between music
and poetry has always been a driving force for me.
I’m also big on history. I love to try to find
myself in a different time and write towards it. Or find an underlooked corner
of a figure from the past and try to tease it out. The continued thread of
humanity is endlessly fascinating. The never breaking, repeating trends are a
rich well for subjects to write about.
Science is a different beast when it comes to my
work. It is usually an after thought, “I’ve gone as far as I can go here, let’s
see what science says,” rather than science being my jumping off point.
Being raised religious but now being not
religious it feels silly to say religion but it looms large in my work. I love
to use prophetic phrases. Zoroastrianism has been a recent obsession. I have
become a massive fan of the YouTube channel ESOTERICA which talks about largely
forgotten aspects of western religion and mysticism. I’m a big William Blake
fan which I think tends to put me in a space to treat poetry like scripture but
like a living scripture.
14 - What other writers or writings are important
for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?
My top three influential poets are as follows–
William Blake; his line in Jerusalem, “They
became what they beheld,” is something I think about and try to apply to things
constantly. How is the world making me?
Paul Celan is another poet that changed my life.
I began with his Romanian poems and immediately fell in love with the work. The
sparse surreal horror of a cold mechanical future yet there is still a human
heart beating.
Antonio Porchia is the one with the least amount
of work that I’m aware of but his book Voices was pivotal in my development.
The simple one line statements that blossom is a feat that I aspire towards.
Jean Paul Sartre is my go to for philosophy. I
destroyed two editions of Being and Nothingness in my 20s. I have referenced
his ideas in countless poems; the play of responsibility and freedom in a
deterministic world is a puzzle I hope to stare at for the rest of my life.
I have two top tier novelists. I love Günter Grass, The Tin Drum got deep inside of me, in fact the entire Danzig Trilogy
remains a top recommendation when someone asks what they should read next.
I am also a big Thomas Pynchon head. I have read
all of his work. I try not to be insufferable about it though. The first book
of his that I read was V. Chapter Three In which Stencil, a quick-change
artist, does eight impersonations blew my mind and I had no idea
someone could do that with prose. I was constantly lost and always in a sweaty
paranoid state reading it and I became hooked on his style.
15 - What would you like to do that you haven't
yet done?
I have never been on a book tour and would adore
it. I love traveling and I love doing readings. Perfect pairing.
16 - If you could pick any other occupation to
attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have
ended up doing had you not been a writer?
It is sort of a
funny question for me because while I identify myself first as a poet,
it by no means has nor do I expect it ever would provide me with enough income
to not do another job. I have been a barista for the last 26 years and I love
it. I have been in some sort of cafe leadership for the majority of that time.
I am currently the manager of the flagship location of a popular local doughnut
and coffee shop that has a few locations around the Puget Sound area.
When Covid started and I was laid off from the
cafe I was working at at the time I thought it would be a great opportunity for
me to get a massive amount of writing done and that I would get through every
book on my to-read list. I had so many plans but it turned out without having a
number of hours in a day being taken from me I had an impossible time at doing
anything. I don’t know if it is the working class upbringing that has made me
this way but what I have learned is that even if I didn’t have to work a job
for financial reasons I need to have some hours dedicated to doing work that
has nothing to do with my passions.
17 - What made you write, as opposed to doing
something else?
I’ve tried other things. When I was a kid I
wanted to be an actor. I’ve been a drummer in a few bands. I used to paint and
show my work and even sold a few paintings in my early 30s. I was an active
anti war political organizer in my 20s.
No matter what other passion projects have come
along poetry has always been the main focus. It being the thing that I’m most
skilled in certainly helps to keep it as my most important outlet. Not to say I
haven’t put a ton of work into growing as a poet and am always looking to
expand my knowledge and ability but writing feels like a natural part of me
whereas those other pursuits were more like learning a foreign language rather
than speaking in your birth tongue.
18 - What was the last great book you read? What
was the last great film?
I recently read 2666 by Roberto Bolano. It
was a great sprawling novel that took me on some wild rides all over the world
and throughout time. There were some of the most gruesome pages of prose that I
have ever read. There were no clear answers other than that men are capable of
terrible acts.
I also read Pynchon’s latest book Shadow
Ticket. It had all the classic Pynchon elements, strange songs, labyrinths
of conspiracy, a dairy magnate that is referred to as the “Al Capone of
cheese,” and of course WWII.
I don’t watch a lot of films. I only keep a
netflix account because I need episodes of Seinfeld at a low volume in the
background to sleep.
19 - What are you currently working on?
I began my current project thinking I was doing
one thing but of course as time has gone on I find that the project has decided
it wants to be something a little different. I started the year writing poems
about 20th century visual artists and their closest relationships, usually
romantic but not limited to that. Of course certain themes began to appear.
Then I got a little burnt out on all the research. I felt I needed to step
away. I wrote several personal poems about my struggle with depression, friends
and loved ones’ mental health, loss of relationships and loss of what one
perceives oneself to be. As I have been going about it I have been working on
some artists again and am seeing that this is a larger project weaving these
elements together. I’m sure a third twist to the project is soon to come as I
feel like I don’t have all my elements gathered yet. It is something that I
couldn’t have been able to write and execute correctly earlier in my career and
it is exciting for me.
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