Wednesday, August 26, 2026

Yongyu Chen, Perennial Counterpart

 

M, it turns out, is thirty-three. At our age they lived in Paris selling feminine hygiene products. They had short hair in winter. In nightclubs they saw

Virginie Despentes, with her then-girlfriend, leaving, clothes trailing behind in macerating trails of light. Open door framing dawn air, welcoming the vinegar dryness.

This gap of ten years is unimaginable. The tart M baked tonight is oily, wonderfully sour.

When I am thirty-three I will be crystal, root systems vulcanized. I will be missed. Woven into the brittle surroundings.

At the party I keep leaving, I sit in the stairwell—what is vivid is the distance. Until I pull out this droplet inside me like violence. Until I harden into the building’s impersonal structure.

G keeps finding me, keeps sitting with me, until I want to return. (“Macerations”)

I was intrigued to see the full-length poetry debut by London-based poet Yongyu Chen, Perennial Counterpart (New York NY: Nightboat Books, 2026), a collection assembled into five clusters of expansive and intimately gestural lyric monologues. “Unintelligible to the end. To the end,” begins the opening poem, “unintelligible. // You will not always write. Or, you will always write. // But when I’m dead I will write? Then? // You will not always write. // At some point / some point // at some point the poems will get / better. Then // it will be your expectations, not the poems / that are lacking. Then // you will not write.” Chen’s poems thread across meditative distances, both cinematic and philosophical, and writing on obsession and creative acts, gesture and gratitude, human connection and travel. Chen’s poems provide the sense of lyrics being written to, whether the self, as journal entry, or to another, via the epistolary form, perpetually articulating the dreams and adventures of youth that one might think can never be put away. As the poem “05.24.23,” a piece dedicated “for Gabby,” includes: “We sit with your friend, in early summer, at the blue / café, his face pale & transparent like a medusa. You lean // in. And recede in the eager waves of his speech. I recede, parallel to you. I / do not learn the essential things. I do not // move my hands in cirlces on the wet surface of the essential. I watch the / mark on his face, stable & changing.” Through the Nightboat Books,there’s such a charming interview with Chen on the collection, as conducted by Lucia Kan-Sperling, that begins:

There was no process in writing this book. For a long time I was just working on one poem, over many weeks, & it absorbed all the sentences I made, & felt like a totality—which would be replaced rather than added-to by the next poem. Only recently does it feel like I’m able to write something not total for me, & I enjoy that feeling.

Most of the work in this book is from 2021–2023. I missed my friends since it was the pandemic, & wrote letters to them. I liked the lettery feeling of friendship. Around that time, I read Michel Foucault’s “Friendship as a Way of Life” & felt very attached to it. I was reading many writers for the first time who felt immediately important to me.

The last poems I wrote in the book came from a very different place. During the editing process, I was reading a lot of Alice Notley & thinking of something she said about looking back on her poem “Dear Dark Continent”: “How honestly did I believe those last lines when I wrote them?” A lot of the work no longer felt true to me & the editing process tried to deal with that.

I did travel in the meantime & remembered other cities & imagined myself as other people in other places; the one time London is mentioned—that was not based on my own experience. All the poems were written while I lived in Cambridge.

There’s such a lovely interiority to Chen’s musings, counterpointed by an “I did this, I did that” quality eschewed by infamous New York School poet Frank O’Hara (1926-1966). Optimistic and populated with an array of friends, Chen’s poems are composed of such long lines, long thoughts, they become comparable in certain gestural ways to that of Ottawa poet Monty Reid—a thought-line long enough it might threaten to reach to the horizon. “Rain for four days. The dry dream. My phone glittering like hair,” writes the poem “Monarchy of the North,” “my / friend texts I wish we lived closer together, the shower steaming. // In the old quarters narrow medieval streets. Consent to look away from / the world.”

 

Tuesday, August 25, 2026

12 or 20 (second series) questions with Jeffrey Skinner

Jeffrey Skinner has published eight full collections of poetry, and a number of chapbooks.  His most recent collection, Sober Ghost, appeared in 2024.  His Selected Poems won the Sexton Prize (England), and will be published in 2027.  In 2014 he was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in Poetry, and in 2015 was given an American Academy of Arts & Letters Award for literature.  His books have been winners of The National Poetry Series, The Crab Orchard Prize for Poetry, The Field Prize, and the Sexton Poetry Prize.  Over the years his work has appeared in The New Yorker, The Atlantic, The Nation, The Paris Review, and Bomb, among many other journals.  His recent work has appeared in Volt, Fence, The North American Review, and Poetry Ireland.

1 - How did your first book or chapbook change your life?

My first book was with Wesleyan, and it did change my life—it gave me the courage to quit my job and look for a teaching job, which is what I really wanted to do. 

How does your most recent work compare to your previous? How does it feel different?

Because I’m at a different place in life, the surface concerns (which also have deep roots) are different, though it seems I’m obsessed still by the same questions.

2 - How did you come to poetry first, as opposed to, say, fiction or non-fiction?

Poetry excited me—I recognized something familiar in it—myself, probably.  I couldn’t read enough of it.  Then I started writing, in recognition.  It was like coming home, to a place I’d never been.  I loved novels too, but was oddly untempted to emulate them.  Later I tried writing stories but, as Creeley said, I couldn’t think of anything for the characters to do.  Dreamboat is a kind of in-between place—halfway between poetry and fiction.  That’s also the place my plays seem to come from.

3 - How long does it take to start any particular writing project?

Sometimes it seems to happen right away, sometimes it takes years to percolate. 

Does your writing initially come quickly, or is it a slow process?  

When I’m writing it’s easy and fast, when I’m not writing it’s slow and impossible. 

Do first drafts appear looking close to their final shape, or does your work come out of copious notes?

I love revision, but it depends on the project.  Some things seem to come out whole, ready to be published.  Others take tons of revision, repurposing, collaging, etc.

4 - Where does a poem or work of fiction usually begin for you?

Usually with a line, or the rhythm for a line.  Sometimes after three or four similar pieces, I’ll see the larger shape ahead and “aim” subsequent pieces toward that whole.

Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?

I generally “just write poems” for a while, until it occurs to me what the pieces have in common.  Then, it usually turns into a book of poems, or, in the case of Dreamboat, prose poems.

5 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process? Are you the sort of writer who enjoys doing readings?

Frankly, I enjoy them less as I get older, though I still do them with some pleasure.  I don’t find they have much to do with the actual writing process. 

6 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?

“Theory” doesn’t interest me, philosophy does.  The current questions are the old questions, which we still can’t answer—“Why is there something rather than nothing?” “Why are we here?” “What is meaning?”  Only the emphasis changes; these days the obsessive old question is “What is consciousness?” Which is especially worrisome because of AI.  But all the old questions lurk behind every work of art, every book of poems.

7 – What do you see the current role of the writer being in larger culture?

Do they even have one? What do you think the role of the writer should be?

The “writer,” if he has a role in the larger culture, has to do generally with how many books he sells.  Thus, “writers” when they are mentioned at all, are generally of the James Patterson variety.  The “literary writer” has no role in larger culture at all.  I’m not unhappy with this state of affairs.  I like working alone, in the dark.

8 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?

I’m lucky in that I’ve had largely positive experiences working with editors.  With books of poems one generally finds the process of editing boils down to which poems to cut, sequencing, and titles.  I imagine it’s different with prose.

9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?

“A writer is a reader who is moved to emulation.”

10 - How easy has it been for you to move between genres (poetry to prose to plays)? What do you see as the appeal? 

It’s nice that I have some knack to move between genres, because I generally switch when I’m not in a poetry writing mode.  I can move from poetry to plays, and, when I’m dry in either of these preferred genres, non-fiction prose.

11 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin? 

I try to write every day.  Generally, I begin by reading prose—a novel or a science nonfiction book.  Then I read poetry.  Then I try to write.  When not writing, I wake up and worry, and try to distract myself from distraction by distraction.

12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?

I return to a book of poetry that was formative for me in my twenties: Ariel, say, or The Lice.

13 - What fragrance reminds you of home?

Cut grass.

14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?

Yes—science, music, and visual art have always influenced me, and continue to do so.  I was the 2014 Artist in Residence at the CERN collider, for example, and I am still mining the inspiration of that stint.  But observation of my own life—its people and events, is still the main source of my “material.”

15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?

I’m currently reading Lydia Davis, who I love; she gets me going.  But I can’t separate the work of writers and friends and family I know from their influence on me, which is immense. 

16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?

I’d like to skydive. No I wouldn’t.

17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?

Probably a courtroom defense lawyer.  But I hate to think about it. 

18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?

As John Ashbery says, “I tried each thing, only some were immortal and free.”

19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?

Serotonin, by Michel Houellebecq; movie: The Quiet Girl

20 - What are you currently working on?

A new book of poems. 

12 or 20 (second series) questions;

Monday, August 24, 2026

Alex Lemon, All Us Beautiful Monsters: poems

 

NO DOOR NO

Welcome
to my party
of special 

favors—waiting
cages gaped
open table ablaze
with perfect 

silver & molten
blitzcake the tease
heavy-breathing 

sweat down your
neck howlsugar
from our night- 

mare garden
O blossoming
sweet glow
O cherry bomb

The seventh full-length poetry collection by Fort Worth, Texas poet Alex Lemon, and the first I’ve seen, is All Us Beautiful Monsters: poems (Minneapolis MN: Milkweed Editions, 2026), an assemblage of first-person lyric narratives, blending elements of observation and meditation. Held in five numbered sections of clustered lyrics, the collection opens with the single-page poem, “AWKWARD HUG,” an accumulation of couplets that closes with: “I’m wide open so come // On in here. Soon, each / Morning, you will tremble, // Glow, feeling the ticking / Pulse of the new bomb // That wakes in each of us.” Lemon offers both invitation and warning, providing and broadcasting a similar narrative personal warmth and external anxiety to another recent title through the same press, Denver, Colorado poet and editor Wayne Miller’s The End of Childhood (2025) [see my review of such here]. “Here,” Lemon writes, as part of “OM NOM,” where everyone gets / A trophy to pile atop the rest of our / We can’t ever get enough, where / It’s always happy hour somewhere / & somewhere else a manatee stares / Into the sunshine with its dead eyes / As it floats its bloated way toward / Nevermore.”

Writing of subjects including cataclysm, Godzilla, destruction and bugs, there’s a wistfulness to these pieces, providing short poems-shaped offerings of hope and agency; a lyric of attention and appreciation to the small and immediate moments; fear for the future and a hope for the possibilities of what can and might still be. “To push back against / The fear,” he writes, as part of “BUGS NEED HUGS,” “I turned / Myself into a machine / With arms that did / Not stop chopping.” Despite the world around him, there is, throughout, a pervasive optimism throughout Lemon’s pragmantic dark, a hope articulated across a pacing of rhythm and phrase, couplets or longer stanzas, one slow step or phrase after another. “Maybe it is wonderful—,” begins the poem “MISERICORDIA,” “How slow every life // How every slow life // Shudders forward // Every life a slow / Motion [.]” There is a way through, Lemon offers, even a dark purely lit from within. In the end, one supposes, it is not simply engagement with the larger world, but an engagement that purposefully and empathetically attends those immediately around us, as his poems suggest, even despite ourselves. His is a dark, pragmatic and glorious optimism. Or, as the poem “RECESS” ends: “Each morning / The magnolias / Ablaze with hope.”