Sakiru Adebayo [photo credit: Geordie Holland] is an assistant
professor and the James and Eva Good Chair of African and Postcolonial
Literature at Western University. Before moving to Western, Adebayo worked as
an assistant professor in the English department at the University of British
Columbia Okanagan from 2021 to 2025. He is the author of Continuous Pasts: Frictions of Memory in Postcolonial Africa (shortlisted for the African
Literature Association First Book Award and finalist for the Memory Studies
Association First Book Award). His work has been awarded the Nigerian Prize for
Literary Criticism and the AmÃlcar Cabral Prize. Adebayo hosts "The New African Diaspora Podcast" and lives in London, Ontario.
1 - How did your first book change your life? How
does your most recent work compare to your previous? How does it feel
different?
My first book was an academic
book; it hasn’t changed my life much, but I suppose it will get me tenure,
which, if we are being honest, is pretty much life-changing for any academic.
My recent poetry collection, Wildfire Verses, is completely different from my
previous book. This book is not written for tenure; it does not contain
academic jargon, and it comes straight from my heart. Writing Wildfire Verses was just as onerous as writing my first (academic book), especially because
both come from a deeply traumatic place and took a lot from me intellectually and
emotionally. However, my poetry collection reflects more of how I feel. I think
that is the beautiful thing about poetry: it allows a certain kind of freedom
that academic writing does not. It is not constrained by grammar, linguistic,
or formatting rules. Even though the collection is about my traumatic
experience in the heat of a wildfire, it felt nonetheless freeing to write. The
book is the place where my trauma and my expressive/creative freedom meet.
2 - How did you come to poetry first, as opposed
to, say, fiction or non-fiction?
I would say my mother tongue,
Yoruba, is a very poetic language. It is full of metaphors, ironies and,
especially, euphemisms. I am so grateful I have proficiency in that language
because, really, learning it took my brain to wild and imaginative places. I
also grew up around older men and women (women especially) who understand the
power of poetic language and know how to wield it. That was my first
introduction to poetry. And, of course, in primary school, we had to
learn/memorize all kinds of poems for all kinds of activities. I also came across
fiction (through folktales) very early in life, but poetry has always been part
and parcel of my life and culture. Therefore – by the time I acquired English
as a second language and became proficient in it– It became a no-brainer that I
started to write poetry.
3 - How long does it take to start any particular
writing project? Does your writing initially come quickly, or is it a slow
process? Do first drafts appear looking close to their final shape, or does
your work come out of copious notes?
If it is an academic work, I
certainly would have multiple drafts. Most of the time, the final draft will
look completely different from the first draft. With poetry, it is slightly
different. Most of my poems come to me fully done. They come in the shape of
fully formed ideas. They also come as very strong feelings. Of course, I will
still do multiple edits, but those are usually rewording, rephrasing and
paraphrasing. The rephrasing can take years, but the spirit of the poem always
remains the same.
4 - Where does a poem or work of prose usually
begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a
larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very
beginning?
It is hard to tell because this
is my first creative output. But I would say that even when the poems come to
me as short and individual pieces, I still end up arranging them by theme and
topicality to produce a book. This also means that some of my poems never see
the light of day because they do not fit into a required theme or topicality.
5 - Are public readings part of or counter to
your creative process? Are you the sort of writer who enjoys doing readings?
This is what I am about to find
out with my book tour, which is starting next month. I love me a good poetry
reading. I am a huge fan of spoken words. I come from a culture that is deeply
oratory. One of my guilty pleasures is listening to Maya Angelou read her poems
(I saved a lot of her readings on Youtube). That said, I am not sure if I am
good at doing readings. This is mostly because I am shy, or maybe it is because
I am afraid of what I am capable of. I have a lot of poetry readings next
month, so I will see how people receive it.
7 – What do you see the current role of the
writer being in larger culture? Do they even have one? What do you think the
role of the writer should be?
I believe writers have many
roles in the culture. I think writers are the conscience of society. They are
part of the thinkers or, you might say, intellectual backbones of society. Like
the olden days, writers are scribes; they document our civilization. Tell me
one civilization or society that does not have its writers. Writers, literary
or non-literary, are important to every civilization. So, to the question: what
do I see the current role of the writer being in the larger culture? We need
our writers now more than ever because of the onslaught of artificial
intelligence. We need our writers to weave their metaphors, similes, humour,
and ironies in ways that remind us of our humanity. In a time when politics has
gone berserk and empathy has become a scarce commodity, we need writers to help
us imagine what it feels like to be the Other. In these times when we are
seeing the plotted death of the imagination, we need writers who will insist on
the magic of the imagination. We need writers who will take us to the
unexpected places of the imaginative plane.
10 - How easy has it been for you to move between
genres (poetry to critical prose)? What do you see as the appeal?
Even though it is not easy to
move from poetry to critical prose (by which I mean literary criticism), I love
the challenge. I often feel like I use different parts of my brain to write
poetry as opposed to critical prose. However, my love of writing (and teaching)
poetry also makes me want to read what scholars are saying about it, which
eventually leads me to writing my own critical thoughts on it as well. I think
some of the best literary critics are also creative writers (e.g. Matthew Arnold, TS Eliot, Virginia Woolf, Henry James, Toni Morrison, Chinua Achebe,
NgÅ©gÄ© wa Thiong’o, Namwali Serpell, Viet Thanh Nguyen among many others). I
also believe that some of the best prose writers that I admire say that they
find inspiration in reading poetry. Although I have said that it is challenging
to move from poetry to critical prose, I would contradict myself and say that,
sometimes, writing in genre feels like an extension of the other. I have been
in situations where, after writing a poem about a subject, I move on to write a
critical essay on the same subject. I also think being a poet helps to enrich
my critical prose/language. A student who read an academic essay I wrote once
told me they enjoyed it precisely because I used a lot of poetic language. This
is not something I do deliberately, but when you spend a lot of time thinking,
reading, writing, and teaching poetry, it comes through in every other kind of
writing that you do.
11 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to
keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?
If you mean writing routine, I
would say that I don’t really have one when it comes to poetry. Whenever I am
inspired to write a poem (note the word “inspired”), the feeling becomes so
strong that I leave everything else I am doing in that moment and focus on
writing the poem. If I don’t leave everything else and focus on writing the
poem, the feeling will disappear, and even when I try to invoke it later on, it
just falls flat. I have once described it as an exorcism. Sometimes I dread
that feeling. I think this is why it took me so long to publish my debut
collection, because I kept running away from poetry. I wrote my collection,
Wildfire Verses, within a week (even though it took three years of editing and
re-editing). It took a traumatic experience of wildfire and evacuation from my
home for me to finally put pen to paper. Within that one week, I could not do
anything else. Sometimes I could not even bathe or eat.
12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you
turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?
Music (especially soul, jazz, and blues). Spoken
Words. Listening to my favourite poets read their poems. I
also turn to the Psalms (in King James or the Message versions only).
13 - What fragrance reminds you of home?
I am a pluvial child (I was born
during the rainy season), so Mitti Attar is the fragrance that ALWAYS makes me
feel at home. The smell and sound of rain hitting the baked earth and sand is
the closest thing to paradise for me.
14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come
from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether
nature, music, science or visual art?
Music for sure. I love all kinds
of music. And, for me, it is not always the words that get me; it is the sound.
So, on my playlist you will find Sufi music, songs in Arabic and Aramaic. I
also love classical music, not just Western classical, but also classical music
from other cultures. I am a huge fan of negro spiritual, blues, jazz,
soul––––let’s just say I like slow music. I like to listen to music before
writing; it sets the mood. Any
poetry person knows that the mood is very important.
15 - What other writers or writings are important
for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?
I love reading Maya Angelou and
Lucille Clifton. I love reading the Bible as well, but it must be in King James
or the Message version. Even though it is obviously a spiritual document, I
think it is the apotheosis of literary genius for me.
16 - What would you like to do that you haven't
yet done?
I want to travel the world. I think travelling is
an important form of education. Well-travelled people are
some of the most cultured and knowledgeable people I have met.
17 - If you could pick any other occupation to
attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have
ended up doing had you not been a writer?
The weird thing is that every other thing I can
think of (screenwriter, teacher, secretary) involves some kind of writing, but
maybe a film director? But I guess that also involves storytelling.
19 - What was the last great book you read? What
was the last great film?
I haven't finished it, but American
Hagwon by Min Jin Lee is a great read.
Sentimental Value by Joachim Trier was a great film.
20 - What are you currently working on?
I am working on another collection of poetry and
a new monograph. Wish me well.
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