Jay Quint is one of
those people who has long gaps in their resumes that aren’t easily accounted
for. In ditching the standardized paths in both his writing, and his life, Jay
kept himself free to leap at opportunities for deeper explorations. He spent his
twenties living in different cities, including Sydney, Paris, Miami, Los
Angeles, and Toronto. After another one of his “grand failures”—so he calls
those creative projects that he threw his whole self into before they crashed
and burned—he returned to his hometown, Montreal, with the single-minded
objective of writing something that would have to be taken seriously. He
rejected the idea of going through the academic pipeline, choosing independent
studies instead. This led him into a six-year long period of hungry, intensive
reading from across a broad range of philosophy, literature, and criticism—a
period that was marked by existential thought, and isolation. During this time,
inspired by Susan Sontag, he immersed himself in film—specifically New Wave
cinema—and began incorporated it into his writing. But, believing that
everything important has already been said (a point that many people disagree
with, he knows), Jay struggled to find a new way to discuss the cultural
history he was most interested in. The result of all his toils is Village Dreams: a critical view from the’60s and ‘70s, which he describes as a work
of “creative cultural criticism
1 - How did
your first book change your life? How does your most recent work compare to
your previous? How does it feel different?
My book was
only recently published, so life hasn’t changed much—and who knows if it will?
I’m working on it though ... Once the book was accepted for publication, I did,
however, find I was able to get my foot into doors that would’ve otherwise been
much harder to crack open. I’m not one of those writers who built their career
brick by brick, publishing articles, or essays, in smaller newspapers and
presses over the years. I also steered clear of academia, and even avoided literary
scenes, so I didn’t have any contacts to help me get published. Being able to tell
more established writers than yourself that you’ve placed your book with a
publisher, gives a degree of legitimization that most other unknowns don’t have;
It was how I was able to get so many people to read my book, and write blurbs
for its back cover. Of course, it also had something to do with interesting
aspects of the book itself. The gatekeeping of the publishing industry is off-putting
to those who aren’t on the inside, but the reality is that all industries are
structures that end up producing similar issues. Even great writers often need
to play the game to get on the inside.
2 - How did
you come to non-fiction first, as opposed to, say, fiction or poetry?
Writing
starts with reading for me, and it was modernist novels and philosophy that
really engaged me from the very start of my career as a serious reader (Yes,
reading was essentially my career—though unpaid and unsung—for nearly 6 years.)
I spent time toying with the idea of
writing something Kafkaesque transposed on contemporary city-apartment life, a
blend of fiction and nonfiction. But it was really with criticism that I found the
sweet spot matching my own sensibilities. I became passionate about Walter
Benjamin, and Susan Sontag, and I ended up anchoring myself at their crossroads
(pre-war and post-war; Europe and America; modernism and post-modernism;
creative and critical intellectualism). I love good prose and a degree of
creativity in nonfiction. My favourite thing is to recover overlooked and
forgotten tidbits that offer historical insights into the present, which is very
much part of Walter Benjamin’s influence and legacy. I’m also inspired by the
personal playfulness of the “new-journalism” writings of Mailer, Didion, and
Tom Wolfe, on one hand, and the more dense politically-historical analysis of figures
like Arendt, on the other.
3 - How
long does it take to start any particular writing project? Does your writing
initially come quickly, or is it a slow process? Do first drafts appear looking
close to their final shape, or does your work come out of copious notes?
As you may
be able to tell already, relatively simple questions often require me to take a
step backward before I can go forward. To answer this question, I’m suspicious
about the value of writing today. I don’t believe in extolling all writers as
necessary, all writing as worthwhile, and all expression as inherently good. In
the tradition of Critical Theory and cultural criticism, the negative has value
in life. Hegel had put it simply: all perception involves negation. Thinking is
always dialectical. And isn’t it also true, generally speaking, that
there’s an inverse relationship between the quality and quantity of all types
of output, including writing? I think there’s already far too much of it today—it
can be argued that there was already far too much if it 150 years ago—and that
the bulk of it isn’t very good. How much of the “content” is just plain bad?
How much of it is unoriginal rubbish masquerading as something brilliant, and
new? Whole industries exist with an interest in telling us how wonderful new
writing is, but even most of those at the top of the “literary” and “intellectual”
worlds are shadows, I think, of the older generations of writers who inspired
them. Naturally, I get lots of pushback when I say these things because it offends
the personal sense of value of writers, and readers, alike—and because I don’t
let myself weasel out of my own judgements, the question for me becomes, how
can I, as someone who wants to write (and wants to say things that have already
been said countless times before, really), do so without being entirely hypocritical?
Why do I even want to write? Is there a new, creative angle I can use to
approach cultural history, to say something that really demands consideration? The
long path to what would eventually become Village Dreams was philosophical
and slow-going because it began with these overriding concerns about the act of
writing itself. I grappled with them for a long time before I was even able to put
pen to paper. Ultimately, I did arrive at a solution—or a workaround, let’s call
it. Once I had the idea, things went fairly smoothly. I did about fifteen
drafts in the end, but that’s because I was crafting my own unique form that
required the balancing various creative and intellectual considerations. My
next book may follow an entirely different process, however. I might even be
inspired to write something that isn’t so serious, and doesn’t need to justify itself.
4 - Where
does a work of prose usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces
that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a
"book" from the very beginning?
My
sensibility is attuned to longer forms because I like clustering thoughts of
various writer-thinkers together and spinning off onto interesting tangents. Essays
appeal to me though, but getting them published typically requires contacts
that I haven’t put in the time to cultivate. I would love to write essays
knowing they’d be published in a quality newspaper, or magazine, as soon as I
was ready to release them to the world— but that’s a rare position to be in as
a writer. I also have some difficulty knowing where a subject should begin and end
since everything’s connected in my mind. There’s always another link, I think,
that can advance the discourse.
5 - Are
public readings part of or counter to your creative process? Are you the sort
of writer who enjoys doing readings?
I had my
first reading last month in Toronto. The event was put together by my publisher,
and it included the six or so other writers they’d published this season. I’ve
always hated public speaking, but I was excited to get a firsthand reaction to
the section I planned on reading. And I really ended up getting the most
enthusiastic reaction. The audience really felt what I wanted them to feel. It
was quite powerful, to be honest. Having said that, I wouldn’t organize my own
readings. The performative aspect of these events feels unnatural to me. It may
just be that I don’t consider myself important enough for people to come see,
and that I myself have no interest in going to see other writers reading from their
own books. The idea of having discussions, or debates, is a bit more
interesting to me than a reading.
6 - Do you
have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are
you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current
questions are?
As I
mentioned, I’m concerned about the value of all writing. It’s more than the
absurd quantity and declining quality of output; I’m haunted by the idea that
everything has been said already, and that we bury older writing that’s valuable
under the endless landslide of new … crap. Applying old thoughts to supposedly
new situations doesn’t cut it for me. A lot of people don’t understand this because
they think so much today is new. When a person cultivates a more historical view
that gives a broader, sort of overhead, vantage point from which to survey the entire
field of action, things look quite different. Those who are caught up in the
action on the ground can’t perceive the situation with the same understanding. This
may sound pretentious, but it’s really a basic metaphor. I find it funny that,
in my experience, many people who agree with the general claim that
understanding the past is important for understanding the present—and most
people agree with this, I think—will disagree about the worth of historical
insights when applied in particular instances, and when it goes beyond the
level—and conclusions—they’re comfortable with. Kierkegaard spoke of the
proscribed level of knowledge that mass society refused to let any individuals
surpass without penalty. The proliferation of mass media clearly had a lot to
do with this, as religion did before it. It’s the difference between people who
are consumed by presentness, by the news media, entertainment, and technology, versus
those who’ve stepped outside of the spectacle to see how forces interacted to get
us to this point, and to understand the cyclical nature of life amid all the
supposed “newness.” Technology may deliver new products, but understanding the place
of technology itself within the whole, reveals as much.
7 – What do
you see the current role of the writer being in larger culture? Do they even
have one? What do you think the role of the writer should be?
It’s not
easy for people to resist flowing along within the accelerated rhythm of the
world we live in. Everyone needs to make a living, to sell themselves, or some
product, and this requires adapting to life as it is (and I think much of
historically leftist critique of capitalism is right when it comes to points
like this one). I’m an ardent believer that writers and artists are the ones
who have the vision, courage, strength—and often the resources—to stand alone, and
maintain a certain distance from the events of the day, with all of its little excitements.
A big part of it is about being able to slow down, I think, and learning to think
independently, which involves reading broadly, and across ideological lines. Writers—and
here we can draw a distinction between those whose aim is to write bestsellers catering
to mass tastes, and those who want to craft something that’s essentially different,
something fuller, whole, suffused with the real complexities of life, rather
than simplistic narratives. The latter kind of writer, who deserves the name
“artist,” should have just a few toes in the present; they should see what’s
happening in the world, while also embracing a degree of remove that allows
them to perceive life more “objectively”—and let’s leave aside the question of
objectivity here. In the past, this distance was referred to in a number of other
ways. Proust often refers to the “disinterested” perspective in relation to the
arts. The word shouldn’t be misinterpreted, though: “disinterested” means cultivating
an impartial point of view, rather than coming at art with pre-existing biases
that are based on self-interest. It’s not about limiting one’s sense of the
world—rather the opposite, in a way. It’s about being more open, receptive, and
understanding. I realize that this opinion—like most of my opinions—isn’t the popular
one today. Progressives usually demand a more socially-engaged art, and they assert
that anything that doesn’t call for full-throttle self-expression, and
unbridled emotional reaction, is dispassionate, anti-social, and conservative.
But the hyper-passionate approach puts the narrative, and conclusion, ahead of itself,
and is therefore biased, and self-interested in its desire for affirmation. Being
“disinterested” is more subtle. This is a version of the old debate about art
for art’s sake, versus an engaged art, which returned in the ‘60s (especially
in France), with the call for art to be in the streets. I’m sure many people who
are reading my answer here won’t be convinced, so, characteristically, I’ll end
by offering a long quote that I think is worth considering. This, from Italo Calvino, an essay called Why Read the Classics (1981): “‘Why read the classics rather
than concentrate on books that enable us to understand our times more deeply?’ or
‘Where shall we find the time and peace of mind to read the classics,
overwhelmed as we are by the avalanche of current events?’ We can of course,
imagine some blessed soul who devotes his reading time exclusively to
Lucretius, Lucian, Montaigne … Ruskin, Proust, and Valéry … To keep up such a
diet without any contamination, this blessed soul would have to abstain from
reading the newspapers, and never be tempted by the latest novel, or
sociological investigation. But we have to see how far such rigor would be
either justifying or profitable. The latest news may well be banal or
mortifying, but it nonetheless remains a point at which to stand and look both
backward and forward. To be able to read the classics you have to know “from
where” you are reading them; otherwise both the book and the reader will be
lost in a timeless cloud. This, then, is the reason why the greatest ‘yield’
from reading the classics will be obtained by someone who knows how to
alternate them with the proper dose of current affairs. And this does not imply
a state of unperturbable inner calm. It can also be the fruit of nervous
impatience, of a huffing-and-puffing discontent of mind. Maybe the ideal thing
would be to hearken to current events as we do to the din outside the window
that informs us about traffic jams and sudden changes of weather, while we
listen to the voice of the classics sounding clear and articulate inside the
room. But it is already a lot for most people if the presence of the classics
is perceived as a distant rumble far outside a room that is swamped by the
trivia of the moment, as by a television on full blast.”
8 - Do you
find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or
both)?
I wanted a
lot more input from my editor when it came to Village Dreams. The book is
unconventional in many respects, it bounces with stream-of-consciousness ideas,
and digressions. When it came to the editing process, I expected lively
discussions about what to include and what to cut, about the book’s real purpose,
and meaning. But my editor approved everything so easily, which left me without
the bouncing board I really wanted at that point. I realized that I’d have to go
back and self-edit the manuscript. To do so effectively also meant understanding
it so fully that I could grab it by the horns. Most readers probably think this
is something most writers automatically do, but I think it’s rarely the case.
Writers and artists often create without knowing all of the keys to their own work.
In the 19th century, the task of decoding the innerworkings of a
work of art became the territory of the critic, more than the creators
themselves. Understanding the ins and outs of one’s own writing, tightening it
properly, typically requires a few more drafts than one has the mental energy
for (It makes me think there may be something to the stereotype of the
pretentious painter who refuses to explain their own work.) It’s a daunting
prospect to think about digging back into your own writing when your head is already
so saturated with the content, and you believed you were nearly done with it.
It’s even difficult to step away from it when you know it’s there waiting for
you, and that you’re going to have to figure out how to give it a final shape,
and polish it off, as best as you can possibly do. In my experience, these
extra pushes are worth the dissonance they cause. Again, it’s usually one step
back, two forward, for me. Putting in those extra few months of work led to a final
version of Village Dreams that really exceeded my own vision for it. A
good editor ca be invaluable, though. I have a writer friend who always came
away from meetings with her editor feeling that the editor’s advice was wrong,
and that she was being pushed too far. But after a few days sitting with the
advice, my friend always came to see her editor’s point. This is just one
example, of course. There isn’t a single model for these relationships, which are
sometimes complex, and touchy. Listening to one another and having mutual
respect is crucial, but it’s also true that the visions of a writer and editor
can diverge too much, in which case it’s best for them to part ways.
9 - What is
the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?
I’ve never received
a good piece of advice. I also think that advice, like wisdom, can point people
in one direction just as easily as the opposite. For example, advice could be, “You
have to take the leap—no risk, no reward! Quit your job and start writing if that’s
what’s really in your heart!” Alternatively, it can be, “Caution—slow and
steady wins the race! Everything comes in its own time.” Advice should always
be contingent on the particular set of circumstances and character of the
individual who asks for it. One of my pet peeves is when people couch their own
ideas and experiences in universal terms—especially when they do so with pseudo-intellectual,
or pseudo-spiritual, pretenses. Roland Barthes has a hilarious essay in his
book Mythologies about how the masses who make up bourgeois-liberal
society try to cast everyone and everything in their own mold to the extent
that they imagine extraterrestrials (which became a popular subject in the ‘50s)
as having bourgeois-humanist mindsets just like themselves.
10 - What
kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does
a typical day (for you) begin?
I like to
do a couple of 3-4-hour sessions each day because my brain gives out after that
length of time. I’ll wake up and walk to my favourite café to read, or write. Then
I’ll usually have a workout because I need a break, and switching from the
mental to the physical is healthy for both dimensions, I think. It’s difficult
to let go when you’re deep in the creative process, but you have to try. In the
afternoon or evening, I’ll do a few more hours of reading, or writing, at home.
I might also watch a film, often something slightly philosophical, or something
that offers some interesting historical context related to whatever I’m
writing, or researching. I love incorporating film into my writing.
11 -
When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a
better word) inspiration?
I always go
back to books, especially since my writing is mainly about cultural history. Sometimes
intense readers need breaks from reading, though. Even Sontag, who was addicted
to reading, needed to clear her mind of books at times. Sometimes our brains
need a reset, and it’s always a good idea to try looking somewhere new for
inspiration. I’ve gotten back into watching sports as an outlet—hockey and
tennis, in particular—though I can get into the playoffs of most sports.
12 -
What fragrance reminds you of home?
My first
thought is whether “home” here is really just a stand in for childhood? or do
you mean where I live now? I prefer the former because it triggers my Proustian
sensibilities, yet I don’t really have an answer other than some vague thoughts
about warm grass in the summer, and a faint sense of perfumes worn by my mom
when I was a kid. I wouldn’t be able to describe the scent though because I can
hardly even evoke it in my mind. I’d have to smell it. Admittedly, this answer
is somewhat of a poetic cliché, but it’s what comes to my mind. I once had a
friend who told me that the sound of a vacuum always made him tired because his
mother would vacuum the house when he was put down for his naps as a child. I
thought that was interesting.
13 -
David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other
forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?
I agree.
Books do come from books, which is part of the reason I find most things so
regressive today. Books from books from books that are third-rate knockoffs of
the original work. But there’s also film, for me. It was reading Sontag’s
essays on New Wave cinema of the ‘60s and ‘70s (Godard, Bergman, Fassbinder, Varda,
etc.) that popularized the idea that film could be part of intellectual
discourse. Of course, the New Wave contained this idea in-itself because it was
heavily imbued with cultural-political and artistic commentary (re. Cahiers du Cinéma), and experiments with the medium itself. The New Wave often tried to
overcome the medium, which is something I’m both interested, and critical of.
14 -
What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life
outside of your work?
Sontag’s collection
of essays in On Photography are a focal point for me. I think the
critiques she gave in the early ‘70s have only grown in relevance since images proliferate
and dominate contemporary life more and more. Her own work picked up threads
from Walter Benjamin, who’s also a major influence on my writing. These two
critics are quite mainstream within intellectual milieus, but I think I’ve dug
deeper and understand them and their thought more than most professional
academics who like to talk about them. I’m most concerned about how their
thought is being distorted to fit evolving narratives. More than anything, I
want to reassert the critical elements of their thought that’s being
purposefully ignored. This is also happening with other writers and thinkers
who influence me: Camus, Arendt, Adorno, to name a few. The work of everyone
I’ve mentioned affects my perspective on nearly everything. I don’t compartmentalize
my writing from the rest of my life because I’m always concerned with the same
thing: revealing contradictions.
15 -
What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?
I’ve
prioritized travel over a settled life of comfort for over a decade now. I’ve spent
a lot of time in London, and whenever I’m there, I get excited about the idea
of setting up shop in Chelsea for a year or so to write a novel.
16 -
If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or,
alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a
writer?
I did my
undergraduate degree in accounting—a field that couldn’t be more opposed to my natural
inclination. I was a very perplexed, disoriented kid. I wasn’t really encouraged
to explore my creative side, and the “do-whatever-makes-you-happy” ethos wasn’t
something I grew up with. The professions were the most sensible option given
my lack of direction. In my early teens, I developed an interest in old film
(Hitchcock in particular), which was part of an escape from real life, and my sexual
confusion, I think. I remember wanting to study film, to become a director, or maybe
a screenwriter. But now that I’ve become a writer, I find myself drawn to less
intellectual work. I like the idea of making things with my hands, like a
carpenter, a furniture designer, or perhaps something to do with plants, like a
gardener, or landscape designer. I think it’s common for writers—existential
ones in particular—to reach a point where they begin to fetishize more manual
labour. Wittgenstein comes to mind.
17 -
What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?
I’ve always
enjoyed writing, but I didn’t pursue it until my mid-twenties. I have a very
active imagination, but it’s tied to reality. I don’t have the capacity for
purely inventive storytelling. I needed to have more real-life learning
experiences to give content and form to my passions. I don’t believe people are
really destined to do one thing or another, to be honest. It’s like when people
talk about meeting their soulmate; I don’t buy the idea that one person is
meant for us. It’s yet another narrative that makes people feel comfortable, and
gives their lives meaning. In reality, I think everything we end up doing is a
combination of nature and nurture, chance and choice. I could’ve easily ended
up as an accountant, or hotel manager—things I was at one time on track to
become. But I’m glad I became a writer because I do think it suits my nature
more—which isn’t quite the same thing as saying “I was meant to be a
writer.”
18 -
What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?
I’m
rereading Proust, which is more than a “great” book. Swann’s Way, the
first section, is a masterpiece—and I wouldn’t use such a word lightly. Otherwise,
I’d say The Man Without Qualities by Robert Musil. It’s 1300 pages of
the smoothest, cleverest, and yet unaffected writing I’ve ever read. I was
shocked by it. As for film, I recently rewatched the German film, The Lives Of Others, which I think is one of the best films of this century so far. I
also saw the Norwegian film Sex, part of the “Sex Dreams Love”
trilogy by Dag Johan Haugerud. It’s complex, funny, psychologically revealing.
Like many Scandinavian films—Joachim Trier’s Oslo trilogy, for instance—there’s
a Bergmanesque quality in the characters’ existentialism and their chattiness. A lot of interesting thoughts are revealed in conversations
that try to resolve strange situations. Being selective about the contemporary
books and films I engage with is also a control mechanism, or an ecology, as
Sontag put it. It’s a way of giving myself an artificial sense of having some control
over the overwhelming tide of output.
19 - What
are you currently working on?
Now that Village Dreams has been published, I’ve had
to make the transition to the “publicity” phase. It wasn’t easy for me to make
the switch, but now that I’ve done it, I’m excited about chances to discuss and
debate the ideas I put into the book. After all, that’s what I really wanted
from the start. My drive was more about ideas, than about storytelling, or writing
as a craft. I’ll likely spend the next six months or so doing my best to keep
that ball rolling. I’m not good at juggling multiple projects, so I can’t
really think too much about what comes next. (Buy my book! Thanks.)
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